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 Post subject: Joey Barton
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:22 am 
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the question is will the Toons show some balls & kick this Neanderthal to the curb,or will it be just a slap on the wrist?
whats everyones opinion on this?




LONDON, July 1 (Reuters) - Newcastle United plan to hold talks with jailed midfielder Joey Barton as soon as possible after he was convicted of assault on Tuesday for the second time in less than two months.

Greater Manchester Police said Barton was handed a suspended four month sentence for knocking out former Manchester City team mate Ousmane Dabo and beating him on the ground during a training session in May last year.

'Newcastle United notes the sentence passed to Joey Barton ... the club now intends to hold discussions with Joey and his representatives at the earliest possible opportunity,' Newcastle United said in a statement on its Web site (http://www.nufc.co.uk).

'Until such time that this meeting has taken place, there will be no further comment from the club.'

Barton, 25, returned to jail after his court appearance on Tuesday as he is still serving a six-month sentence for beating up a teenager during a night out last December. Police released television surveillance footage of the attack on Monday.

Barton, who has one England cap, joined Newcastle United for 5.8 million pounds in July 2007 after the training ground incident effectively ended his career with Manchester City.


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 Post subject: Re: Joey Barton
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kick the fucker out! if it was his first 'offence' then give him another chance, let him show some remorse...but this is just barton through and through, an absolute thug who disgusts me! :evil:


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 Post subject: Re: Joey Barton
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Doesnt matter if they do kick him out, he'd get offered a good contract by another team when he leaves prison.

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 Post subject: Re: Joey Barton
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if i was a manager i would say right joey, ill offer you a contract for us if every person that hates you joins together and gives you one good kicking,

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 Post subject: Re: Joey Barton
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did we not stick by and pay Adams whilst he did his stint? why is everybody slagging off barton? don't get me wrong i'm not a fan of his but why should his employees sack him? he's a useful asset. why did we not sack Adams? were we condoning drinking and driving? how many deaths are caused by drunk drivers? or was it becasue it was our Tony that made it acceptable?
Ms Tc said he disgusts her which i don't have a problem with but did Admas disgust her at the time?

barton committed a crime and is being punished that should be enough. would we say the same if he were a plumber?


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 Post subject: Re: Joey Barton
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:11 pm 
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did we not stick by and pay Adams whilst he did his stint? why is everybody slagging off barton? don't get me wrong i'm not a fan of his but why should his employees sack him? he's a useful asset. why did we not sack Adams? were we condoning drinking and driving? how many deaths are caused by drunk drivers? or was it becasue it was our Tony that made it acceptable?
Ms Tc said he disgusts her which i don't have a problem with but did Admas disgust her at the time?

barton committed a crime and is being punished that should be enough. would we say the same if he were a plumber?


Difference is this isn't Bartons first run-in with the law. People have given him chance-after-chance and he keeps messing up. He is in the spotlight and with that comes pressure and expectations that a plumber doesn't have, and he knows that.

Saying that I agree with you. Prison can sort a man out and this is a big time in his life, he needs to sort himself out and get back to basics... working hard in football and living inside the law. It's all up to him now... one more fuck up and he will be back inside, or he can turn his life round like Tony and go onto do great things for Newcastle.


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 Post subject: Re: Joey Barton
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f3955 wrote:
radford149 wrote:
did we not stick by and pay Adams whilst he did his stint? why is everybody slagging off barton? don't get me wrong i'm not a fan of his but why should his employees sack him? he's a useful asset. why did we not sack Adams? were we condoning drinking and driving? how many deaths are caused by drunk drivers? or was it becasue it was our Tony that made it acceptable?
Ms Tc said he disgusts her which i don't have a problem with but did Admas disgust her at the time?

barton committed a crime and is being punished that should be enough. would we say the same if he were a plumber?


Difference is this isn't Bartons first run-in with the law. People have given him chance-after-chance and he keeps messing up. He is in the spotlight and with that comes pressure and expectations that a plumber doesn't have, and he knows that.

just because he plays football for a living does not mean he should be treated differntly. Adams was a drunk driver is that worse than what barton did? seems to me Arsenal fans and people in general are being selective here. Adams was drunk and could have killed someone. yet we still paid him and gave him a heroes welcome. there was no talk of telling him to fuck off and tearing up his contract.


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f3955 wrote:
radford149 wrote:
did we not stick by and pay Adams whilst he did his stint? why is everybody slagging off barton? don't get me wrong i'm not a fan of his but why should his employees sack him? he's a useful asset. why did we not sack Adams? were we condoning drinking and driving? how many deaths are caused by drunk drivers? or was it becasue it was our Tony that made it acceptable?
Ms Tc said he disgusts her which i don't have a problem with but did Admas disgust her at the time?

barton committed a crime and is being punished that should be enough. would we say the same if he were a plumber?


Difference is this isn't Bartons first run-in with the law. People have given him chance-after-chance and he keeps messing up. He is in the spotlight and with that comes pressure and expectations that a plumber doesn't have, and he knows that.

just because he plays football for a living does not mean he should be treated differntly. Adams was a drunk driver is that worse than what barton did? seems to me Arsenal fans and people in general are being selective here. Adams was drunk and could have killed someone. yet we still paid him and gave him a heroes welcome. there was no talk of telling him to fuck off and tearing up his contract.


Barton has been found guilty twice, not to mention all the other stuff he did. Tony made A mistake, done his time which was quite harsh in the circumstances. Barton is a different class.

Treated differently? No, but he has a responsibility and he has to remember that.


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Difference is this isn't Bartons first run-in with the law. People have given him chance-after-chance and he keeps messing up. He is in the spotlight and with that comes pressure and expectations that a plumber doesn't have, and he knows that.

just because he plays football for a living does not mean he should be treated differntly. Adams was a drunk driver is that worse than what barton did? seems to me Arsenal fans and people in general are being selective here. Adams was drunk and could have killed someone. yet we still paid him and gave him a heroes welcome. there was no talk of telling him to fuck off and tearing up his contract.[/quote]

Barton has been found guilty twice, not to mention all the other stuff he did. Tony made A mistake, done his time which was quite harsh in the circumstances. Barton is a different class.

Treated differently? No, but he has a responsibility and he has to remember that.[/quote]

no, Adams got caught once but did the crime many times. and barton does not have a responsibilty to us or anyone else. agree barton is a serial offender but then again so was Tony but his admission.


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 Post subject: Re: Joey Barton
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no, Adams got caught once but did the crime many times. and barton does not have a responsibilty to us or anyone else. agree barton is a serial offender but then again so was Tony but his admission.


Barton has got caught and punished, then caught and punished again. Then caught and punished again. And so on and so on. He's a violent, idiotic, petty thug. Adams was just bloody stupid and once caught and punished reformed his ways. Barton has shown no evidence of that because he's simple unwilling/incapable of controlling his temper/drinking.

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 Post subject: Re: Joey Barton
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radford149 wrote:
no, Adams got caught once but did the crime many times. and barton does not have a responsibilty to us or anyone else. agree barton is a serial offender but then again so was Tony but his admission.


Barton has got caught and punished, then caught and punished again. Then caught and punished again. And so on and so on. He's a violent, idiotic, petty thug. Adams was just bloody stupid and once caught and punished reformed his ways. Barton has shown no evidence of that because he's simple unwilling/incapable of controlling his temper/drinking.


whilst i accept some of what you say Adams was caught one but offended many many times of a very serious offence. and at the time was captain and an international. yet Arsenal fans did not say get him out etc. i'm not a fan of barton but why should he be sacked from his job?


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radford149 wrote:
Ben the Gooner wrote:
radford149 wrote:
no, Adams got caught once but did the crime many times. and barton does not have a responsibilty to us or anyone else. agree barton is a serial offender but then again so was Tony but his admission.


Barton has got caught and punished, then caught and punished again. Then caught and punished again. And so on and so on. He's a violent, idiotic, petty thug. Adams was just bloody stupid and once caught and punished reformed his ways. Barton has shown no evidence of that because he's simple unwilling/incapable of controlling his temper/drinking.


whilst i accept some of what you say Adams was caught one but offended many many times of a very serious offence. and at the time was captain and an international. yet Arsenal fans did not say get him out etc. i'm not a fan of barton but why should he be sacked from his job?


any other person would have been sacked for the fisrt thing he committed, never mind the fourth and fifth. The cunt gets paid to do what he loves, and he still acts like a total twat.....

i have no sympathy for him what so ever

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 Post subject: Re: Joey Barton
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Where I see the difference is this:

What Adams did was not within the context of football or the team. Barton beat up a TEAM MATE, as well as the cigar-in-the-eye incident. His other offense was outside the sport.

I am against drunk driving, of course, and think people should do time for a 2nd offense. But a footballer who behaves criminally within football should be out. Let him find himself in league 1 or 2. That would be enough of a second chance for me.


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 Post subject: Re: Joey Barton
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Where I see the difference is this:

What Adams did was not within the context of football or the team. Barton beat up a TEAM MATE, as well as the cigar-in-the-eye incident. His other offense was outside the sport.

I am against drunk driving, of course, and think people should do time for a 2nd offense. But a footballer who behaves criminally within football should be out. Let him find himself in league 1 or 2. That would be enough of a second chance for me.


interesting points but bear in mind that fights go on all the time (i'm not condoning it) but then i remember the harston incident, surly that was worthy of a criminal charge? was hartson banned?....no was his contract terminated....no.

you say that a footballer who behaves badly in football should be out but those who behave outside the game should be left alone. how can that be right. remember woodgate's his offensive made barton look a saint (thats said tongue in cheek)and he has never paid the correct price


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 Post subject: Re: Joey Barton
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radford149 wrote:
shegunner wrote:
Where I see the difference is this:

What Adams did was not within the context of football or the team. Barton beat up a TEAM MATE, as well as the cigar-in-the-eye incident. His other offense was outside the sport.

I am against drunk driving, of course, and think people should do time for a 2nd offense. But a footballer who behaves criminally within football should be out. Let him find himself in league 1 or 2. That would be enough of a second chance for me.


interesting points but bear in mind that fights go on all the time (i'm not condoning it) but then i remember the harston incident, surly that was worthy of a criminal charge? was hartson banned?....no was his contract terminated....no.

you say that a footballer who behaves badly in football should be out but those who behave outside the game should be left alone. how can that be right. remember woodgate's his offensive made barton look a saint (thats said tongue in cheek)and he has never paid the correct price



Not left alone. Just dealt with in court. What I said was that criminal behavior within the context of a team is different TO THE TEAM from criminal behavior outside the team. It makes more sense to me to ban a guy who commits a crime against a team mate or against the club that someone who simply commits an offense, but it would be something that a club would decide. I was mainly pointing out the difference - as I saw it. I don;t think there is just one easy rule that would cover everything.

Look at Craig Bellamy season before last season and the golf club assault. Bellamy wasn't with Liverpool in the following season.


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